This is my perspective of the HTML5 vs Flash debate, which in all honestly is no debate. Both HTML5 and Flash will work together to push the internet forward. I’m using real-world examples of HTML and Flash, and HTML5 on the iPhone. Please also view this video www.youtube.com Please people, make your own decisions rather than accepting what Apple tells you!
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HTML 5 is the Open un-currated format. Web based tech should be standards based. FLASH animated sites are often buggy and high security risk. The mobile web is taking over and native apps on a iPhone or iPad can do a lot more than FLASH or HTML 5. Whats really is behind all the Apple bashing is that developers don’t want to learn to code in HTML 5. They were hoping to get a free ride from Adobe. If Apple or Adobe made tools for easy HTML 5 site and app making, would there even be a debate?
Wow. You know FF4 doesn’t support flash at all.
i tried exact (!!!) the same u did, videohoster,
and i had in the html5 pool demo 39% cpu
and in a flash pool game 112 – 127 % cpu…
did u use safari 5?
@scattorco When i said mindless apple followers i was referring to what would soon make apple a monopoly, not you. Sorry if you mistook that. : )
@scattorco They are not trying to gain a monopoly…. They cannot charge for flash… and if you think this is a monopoly. Just look at apple in 4 years. Too mindless apple followers.
I would like to see HTML5+ gain usage, features and market acceptance. I am not a big fan of Flash – have had to use it a lot and never comfortable with it.
And it has nothing to do with what a certain company or it’s CEO think of it.
You seem to panic for no reason… HTML5 isn’t difficult to learn.
@idontfkinknow1234
No need to start being rude about it
@darwich17 Thank you for your intelligent response.
@arjansammani you are faking it!
That’s how to explain .. you are using a mac, you have an iphone and an ipad .. and now you feel hurt that you know what you have sucks!
Good video/review, thanks… !!!
@DreamerXristos haha relax bro
If you run safari it uses up a bit less CPU power. To me this sounds like someone’s trying to obtain a monopoly over the internet. Imagine if Adobe started to charge everyone to use use flash. Then what?
70% if not more of the web is Flash based.
I’m sort of on Steve Job’s side at the moment.
LOLOLOL!!!!! apple sucks!!!!!! on my pc it uses 1% to 2% for the QuBoid Gravity media viewer! LOL
@arjansammani Don’t use a mac? Viewing videos on youtube cases no more then 2% cpu usage on a windows machine..
Not to mention HTML5 youtube sucks, but hey if you want to ride steve job’s cock at the expense of a crappy web experience be my guest.
@farjang That example will only run in Chrome and veeeeeeerrrry slow on an average machine….
What about HTML5 with WebGL, I saw Quake II was one great example that Google demo.
What about HTML5 with WebGL, I saw Quake II was one great example that Google demo.
Using HTML5 now to view this vid. My CPU load is no where near 10% whereas the flash based youtube movie of this same vid makes my CPU load hover around 50%.
How would you explain that?
I’m not trying to fight this fight for anyone I just don’t like to see it when someone adds to the argument and leaves some facts out. For example, Firefox/html5 was using 100% and Firefox/Flash was too, but what you failed to show was the usage of the flash plugin while it was running.
If you want to make something that is interactive with your mouse, more like flash, you would want to use SVG and/or Javascript with webworkers, not canvas.
The touch screen you were using a best buy is the same exact thing as using a mouse. Its not like the user interface of an iDevice.
As far as the html5 vs flash in the web goes, apple is only saying that 1) html5 is the future, meaning still in progress, and 2) they are only talking about the Safari web browser. (not just because they make it, but because its on all of their internet enabled devices) Doing a demo of this in a browser that isn’t included in this argument is invalid.
Well, I don’t believe Flash will go away in the next 5 years, but for mobile, flash is useless. This however also goes for any heavily scripted animation form – including HTML5 animations as you demonstrated.
Maybe in 2 to 3 years, mobile devices will be powerful enough to match current desktop performance – but the bottleneck here is not “what’s possible” from a HTML5/Flash point of view, but raw CPU-power. Also, HTML5 is still very experimental, and there’s still lots of room for improvement.
It wont be until HTML 7 or 8 + CSS 5 or 6 + updated JavaScript + extremely well optimised browsers until HTML performs as well as Flash does right now for animation, games, and interactive content.
…and by that time Flash would have gone through atleast 8 – 12 major updates/new versions + new versions of the coding language.
HTML will never catch up. This should be obvious to people if they would just think for once and not listen to Jobs and marketing bull.
@TheRealCritique By the time the HTML5 spec is complete in 2012, Flash will have progressed more, and unlike HTML, Flash gets updated yearly with new features/capabilities.
HTML will never catch up because of this. HTLM5 also relies on many different coding languages as HTML5 itself is just a very simple page markup language, so not only does HTML5 have to improve, but also other technologies that work with it like JavaScript and CSS. On top of that each browser performs differently with HTML5.
Mozilla firefox is resource hungry normally anyways, and it doesn’t have HTML5 intergrated properly yet because HTML5 is still starting out.
Support for flash was once bad and cruddy!
But just like flash, html5 will get better, you are comparing something new in development with something thats been round for years.
Of course there is going to be a difference.
I see your point, but HTML5 still has potential.